Sign up Latest Topics

  Author   Comment  

Avatar / Picture

Posts: 8,268
Reply with quote  #1 

Romans 13:1-14 (KJV)
1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

We have struggled politically for years.  We listen to the politicians, we vote for the one we think to be the better of the two.  We watch as the nation grows more and more wicked, we see waste and corruption, we see the Christian liberties being mocked and removed.   Then, at the next election, we repeat the same. 

We are not of this world, we are of another world.  We are children of the Ruler of the universe.   We are here on assignment, and though we are citizens of this nation, in their eyes, we have a higher, far higher calling and work. 

This country was founded on Christian principles.  The nation was founded to allow liberty to choose one’s own faith.  We do not regulate via the government which faith anyone must adhere.

Many Americans think that the First Amendment in our Constitution say that there must be ‘Separation of Church and State’.  The media, many politicians, and even church leaders often use that statement.  A recent poll showed that 69% of the nation believes that the First Amendment has that wording within it. 

Yet, those words are not anywhere in the Constitution.  
What the First Amendment does say is this:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

What that tells us is that the government cannot establish a state religion, nor can it pass laws that hinder or control one’s religion.  Free press, free speech, freedom to peaceably assemble, and freedom to petition the government on grievances, is also included.  The government is not to be ‘religion free’, but rather the church is to be guaranteed the state will not try to control it.

From where did the words ‘separation of church and state’ come?  They were words of Thomas Jefferson in 1802. In 1801, the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut wrote to President Jefferson, and asked about religious freedom.  On January 1, of 1802, the president answered them, and his answer underscored the First Amendment as being a guard against government interfering in religious matters.   Jefferson stated that the First Amendment created a ‘wall of separation’ to protect churches from the government making laws prohibiting the free exercise of their religion.  The First Amendment restricts the government, not the people. 

The Warren Court misinterpreted the Constitution, and put restrictions on the exercise of one’s religion, by restricting the people from ‘prayer in school, religious displays at Christmas, etc.  Jefferson never intended that interpretation of his letter. In fact, it is quite the opposite of what he was telling the Danbury Baptist group. Three days after writing that letter, Jefferson attended church at a worship service on government property, in the House Chambers of the U.S. Capital Building.  The church was having a service on government property, without government interference.

Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, William Rehnquist has said:
The metaphor of a wall of separation is bad history and worse law.  It has made a positive chaos out of court rulings.  It should be explicitly abandoned.”

We have freedom of religion, we need to exercise that freedom.  It is fine for one to be very religious, to stand on Biblical ethics and morals, and to speak those in any location of the nation, even in the government buildings.   The government can make no law stopping us from worshiping, from voting with a Christian conscience, from speaking forth our religious beliefs.  We can pray aloud, we can read and quote Scripture in government meetings.  Our presence does not need apology, does not need hidden, and can be declared freely without government restraint or punishment.

The government has stated that it is illegal for children to pray in school for it violates the ‘separation of church and state.’  Praying does not establish a state religion.  Prayer in schools was always voluntary.  Ruling that students cannot pray violates the Constitution.  The founding fathers of our nation tried, with the First Amendment, to stop government interference in religious matters.

This current administration banned Franklin Graham from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer event.  President Obama ordered that Christian school children must stop praying outside the Supreme Court building, for they were, he said, ‘violating the law’. This president also, twice, omitted the words ‘by their Creator’ from the Declaration of Independence when reciting it to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.  He also had Georgetown University to cover up all religious signs and symbols prior to his arrival to speak there.  He had the government issue a rule that no Bibles could be given patients at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, until an uproar made them rescind that policy. 

This administration has been attacking our faith, corrupting our nation, with anti-Christian efforts.  We have a Lord Jesus, Who is the true Ruler of this whole universe, this nation included.  He will someday return to heal this nation, and the world.  Till then, we need to seek revival, and win souls to Jesus.  The nation may be praising one candidate or another, but the only hope of this nation is Jesus.

Malachi 4:1-3 (KJV)
1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
There is coming a day, when ‘healing’ will arrive for all, our souls, our spirits, our bodies, and even the government will be healed.  In the few verses following these verses above, you will see that just before that day comes, Elijah (and Enoch too) will arrive to preach messages from God.  Then, the second coming of Jesus occurs.  We have not seen Elijah yet, and it will be near the end of the tribulation that he will arrive to spend 3 and a half years ministering.  So, the healing of the government will not take place till the Perfect, Loving, Just, Wise, Ruler of the universe takes His throne to rule all governments here.   That will be the day of healing for government.

Till then, we have to do as God spoke through Paul in Romans 13.  We behave in a Christian manner.  We obey the laws of God.  We pay tribute to the leaders God has allowed to be in charge for now, but we remember that we are ‘under God’ and a part of His kingdom.   We are ‘ambassadors’ here, not here to make these governments perfect, for we cannot.  No man, no politician, no king, no senator, etc is ever perfect, can ever be sinless, faultless, nor omniscient.

There is a doctrine called ‘kingdom theology’ or ‘dominion theology’ that misconstrues Genesis 1:26 to apply to Christians supposing to rule secular governments over all humans and institutions.  This is found in Mormonism, and in some protestant denominations.  God meant to give mankind dominion over the animal kingdom with that verse, but that was stymied by the fall of man.   It will be restored in the millennial kingdom, where the lion and kid shall lie down together, and a child shall play over the site where a serpent lives, and not fear nor be hurt.  As far as having dominion over all humans and institutions, that will not come to us, for Jesus will rule.  He will return for a 1000 year millennial period and take rule.  We, due to the curse, are still plagued with governments ruled by fallible men.  

Some adherents to this ‘dominion theology’ claim that it is a ‘moral obligation’ to ‘recapture every institution for Jesus Christ’ (Gary North).  Another has said that ‘it is dominion we are after, world conquest.  That is what Christ commissioned us to accomplish’ (George Grant).  

At the beginning of His ministry, Jesus declined satan’s offer to have the kingdoms of this earth.  Jesus knew, as we should, that first Jesus wants to rule in the hearts of mankind, and then, at a later time will He come to ‘rule and reign.’   We are not there yet, we are waiting for the ‘Ruler’, i.e. Jesus, to arrive in Person.

The Scriptures tell us to be ‘servants’, to minister to, not to have dominion in this present world.  We are not in the millennial kingdom yet, it is awaiting the second coming of Jesus.

Matthew 20:25-28 (KJV)
25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Jesus did not come to take over the institutions and governments of that day, He came to rule in the hearts of mankind, to establish a kingdom there.  We are still in that soul saving campaign.  We are not to seek power, authority of the world, and rule institutions and governments.  We are to have a mission to win souls into the ‘kingdom’ of Jesus.

John 18:36 (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

The rulers of wickedness will be in control in the last days.  In the tribulation even, we shall see wicked rulers mistreating God’s people.  Until Jesus comes, there will not be a perfect ruler.   Some think they are going to get power, rule, reign, and then Jesus will come back to take over.  That is laughable in Scripture, for it shows that things will get worse and worse until Jesus comes.

Matthew 24:4-27 (KJV)
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand😉
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Healing for the governments of this world will not come until Jesus sits on the throne.  We cannot make governments perfect.   We cannot rule in righteousness, for we are fallible, human, subject to temptations and failures.   We need to seek revival.

Previous Topic | Next Topic

Quick Navigation:

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.