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Joshua 10-11-12

?Some of the cities went into a confederacy against Gibeon, for its treachery and betrayal of the other Canaanites. They feared Gibeon would join Israel in battles. They decide to attack Gibeon. Five kings, led by Adonizedec of Jerusalem, an ancestor of Melchisedec to whom Abraham had paid tithes. This Adonizedec was not righteous though, he was evil and a hard enemy.

These kings and their armies assembled and came against Gibeon. Joshua came to the aid of Gibeon. They had embraced Israel and Jehovah, first out of fear, then sincerely. So, now, not only would Joshua not attack them, but also he will defend them.

The battle raged, but Joshua and his army needed more time to finish ‘the battle, to secure lasting victory, and so a miracle had to happen. Joshua needed a much longer day.

The sun, during this battle, stood still over Gibeon, and the moon stood still over Ajalon (Jasher). Since the sun and moon seemed motionless, and the sun and moon do not revolve around the earth, what in actuality happened is that the earth stopped spinning.

In the last days the Lord knows we have a lot of work to do for Him. We will get what He wants to be done, as the night, the tribulation approaches, for we will defeat the enemy, the devil, before we are taken out of the way.

The Bible says, ‘the night cometh when no man can work’. In Joshua’s time, the battle against these five kings was going to be lost, if night came, so the night did not come, till the battle was won.

The cave that the five kings fled to, and trusted in for a refuge, became their prison, till Joshua sat in judgment there over them (Joshua 10:18).

Joshua and Israel were made masters:

of Jericho by a miracle

of Ai, by the strategy of the Lord,

of Gibeon by a surrender,

and God continued to make them masters of the land they had been promised. We too have many promises from God, and God wants to make us masters of those things. We have battles in securing them, but we are mighty with God.

Israel was finally ready to do battle, to challenge the giants, and to take the land God had promised them. They even began to complain of the slowness of Joshua. They probably thought he was being slothful, and cowardly. Yet, God had told them that this victory would be ‘little by little’.

Today, many complain of the slowness of the victories. We get anxious to have our next victory. It seems to dray, we seem to wait and wait. We complain of the slowness of the Lord. We think He has failed us just because there is much time between victories.

When Joshua hurried ahead of God, Ai happened. Then after that, the campaign became vigorous, and there was battle after battle for five years.

Joshua campaigned against many foes.

Not all were conquered the same way.

Some were defeated by divine help as with Jericho.

Some were conquered by a miracle of earth

standing still as the five kings.

Some were beaten by surrender as Gibeon.

Some were conquered by following God’s orders as Ai.

Some were simply discomfited by God.

Some had great hailstones destroy.

Some wer hardened in their hearts

 so they would do stupid things.


Some were destroyed due to the swords

of Joshua’s army.

We too battle in this promised land we have entere, and we battle demons, devils, the flesh. We see them defeated by miracles, by prayer and fasting, by the Word (our sword), and by determining to trust the Lord with faith.


The Lord said to Joshua:

‘Fear them not, for I have delivered them into thy hand."

Joshua 10:8

Joshua then passed on that message to his people:

"Fear not, nor be dismayed, be strong and of good courage; for thus shall the Lord do to all your enemies against whom ye fight."

Joshua 10:25

We are promised victories too. We are told that we ‘can do all things through Christ Who strengthens." We are promised that ‘no weapon formed against us shall prosper." We have the promise of the Lord that He will ‘never leave, nor forsake us." We have those promises and more, we have the baptism and gifts of the Spirit to empower us.

God will give victories. He did then... He does now.

Joshua 10:10

"Lord discomfited them..."


Joshua 10:11

"Lord cast down great stones from heaven upon them."


Joshua 10:13

"sun stood still and the moon stayed..."


Joshua 10:19

"Lord your God hath delivered them into your hand..."


Joshua 10:30

"the Lord delivered it..."


Joshua 10:32

"Lord delivered Lachish...’


Joshua 11:8

"I will deliver them into the hand of Israel...’


Joshua 11:20

"it was of the Lord to harden their hearts...’

The battles went so well, that those giants that once were feared, went to hiding in the mountains, hoping that Israel would bypass them.

Joahua 11:21

"...at that time came Joshua and cut off the Anakims from the mountains... destroyed them utterly with their cities. There was none of the Anakims left in the land of the children of Israel..."

The Anakims were descendants of the marriage of the ‘sons of God and the daughters of men.’ They were giants.

Genesis 6:4

"There were giants in the earth in those days,

and also after that...’

These giants were large and fearful due to size, but they were no match for God or God’s people. They hid in the mountains. The children of Israel needed to kill everyone of these giants, for their dna, if mixed with the nation of Israel could have corrupted the dna from which the Messiah was to be born, and He was to be the ‘Seed’ of Adam and Eve, so He could die for all of mankind. The Anakims were totally wiped out, but some other groups of giants were not, for Goliath, whom David faced was one of these part angelic beings. He was around 12 feet tall.

At the death of Joshua, it is said:

"there remaineth yet very much land to be possessed."

Joshua 13:1

So it is with our lives, we need to realize that the devils will fight us long and hard. We are to win, but the winning goes on and on, for there are many foes. The fallen angels numbered one third of all the angels that God had created, and that was a mass number. The fallen race of pre-Adamites of the original creation were likely billions, and the part human, part angelic beings number many also. So, we may abyss many, but there are many, many more yet to battle.


Ephesians 6:11-12

"Put on the whole armor of God that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places."

Even in revival, we battle, and yet, we are to be winning those battles. The demons, like the giants, get fearful, for ‘resist the devil and he will flee...’ We are promised this kind of power. It is time we learn to put the devils to flight, to hiding, to wishing they had never met us.

Another enemy we face till the rapture is the flesh. We have an old man in ourselves, that keeps trying to overcome our spirit.

Galatians 5:16-21

"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh, and these are contrary one to another... Now the works of the flesh are manifest which are:



















We must battle these things which try to be in us.

This is a real battle

in which for us to be having victories.

Romans 8:13

"For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die’

but if ye through the Spirit,

do mortify the deeds of the body,

ye shall live."

The key to winning over the flesh, and over the demons is to submit ourselves to the Lord, and then resist...

James 4:7

"Submit yourselves therefore to God,

Resist the devil and he will flee from you."

Many try to resist the devil, but forget the first part. We need to first,

submit to God. Trying to do it without yielding first to God is foolish and leads to failure. We have crossed over the Jordan, we are sancitified to His service. Therefore, keep remembering to keep submitting to Him.

We must be alert. We must be awake.

I Peter 5:8-9

"Be sober, be vigilant,

because your adversary the devil,

as a roaring lion,

walks about seeking whom he may devour.

Whom resist, stedfast in the faith."


Too many are sleeping, pathetic saints.

When awake, they try to think of reasons

 for staying in the wilderness.


Promised land saints are sober, vigilant,

 and ready to battle that roaring lion,

 not  be his victim.


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We battle along in the promised land...

we are to beat the devil,

and defeat him...


We may be hit by him,

but we hit back...

the victory is ours...


The devil uses some in congregations

to hit us with...

they attack us, criticize us,

hit us with verbal assaults...



the Lord is faithful to help us

defeat those attacks,

and the victory is ours...


Some will hit us...

and they think they are justified

in their attacks...

..but they will find they are beaten...

for Jesus is with us....


the devils will attack when ever they

sense us weak and vulnerable...

but we can still beat them


greater is He that is in us,

than he that is in the world...


 There are battles in this promised land,

but there are victories, not defeats for us...


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When Israel crossed Jordan,

began to take Jericho

and win other victories,

they rejoiced...


we should too, as we  win victory after victory..


The disciples rejoiced too for the

things they were seeing and experiencing...


Luke 19:37-40"...the whole multitude of disciples

began to rejoice and praise God

with a loud voice

for all the mighty works that they had seen;

 saying, Blessed be the King that cometh

in the name of the Lord; peace in heaven

and glory in the highest.

 And some of the Pharisees

 from among the multitude said unto Him,

Master, rebuke Thy disciples.

 And He answered and said unto them,

I tell you that if these should hold their peace,

 the stones would immediately cry out."


Jesus accepted the worship of the disciples,

and they could barely contain their joy

 in seeing Jesus fulfill the prophecy of Zechariah.

The Pharisees, and some others, criticized the excitement and the joyous worship of the disciples...

Many today criticize the joy of the worshippers in Christianity. They would rather we piously sit in pews, and reverently bow our heads while a minister recites a saintly sounding, monotone prayer... But the early church praised in the prison cells, worshipped while tied to poles about to be set afire. They were unrestrained, unhindered by commands of authorities to cease mentioning the name of Jesus...

The early church had more than correct doctrines, it had more than great emphasis on the Word of God and prayer, it had more than spiritual leadership, and it had more than spiritual gifts...

The revival church had WORSHIP and PRAISE.

The correct doctrines, when written upon the heart, should create a worshipping congregation.

Some congregations pride themselves on correct doctrines, and some feel they are so right, that everyone else is wrong. Proper doctrine is important. Never underestimate correct doctrine, but it should lead to worship... If doctrines and beliefs of a congregation do not lead to, and result in, worship and praise... the doctrines are not proper, not understood correctly, or simply misconceptions...

Sound doctrine does not have to be "sound asleep."

There is too much of the "deep frozen" religion.

There are many who know the Word, know the doctrines,

know the prophecies, -

- but do not worship the Lord.


 The scribes and Pharisees of the time of the Lord's first coming,

 knew the Word...

but failed to worship the Messiah when He stood in their presence.


Today, we find many such people also.

The true vocation of the congregations includes WORSHIP.

I Peter 2:5,9

"...to offer up spiritual sacrifices... that ye should shew forth the praises of Him..."

Psalms 100:4

"Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, and into His courts with praise; be thankful unto Him, and bless His name."

Psalms 107:32

"Let them exalt Him also in the congregation of the people, and praise Him in the assembly of the elders."

Psalms 109:1

"Praise ye the Lord. I will praise the Lord with my whole heart, in the assembly of the upright, and in the congregation."

The congregation that fails to worship, has failed at its real vocation. God meant for us to learn to worship... then learn to work. Martha was distracted by much serving. Mary chose the "better", and sat at the feet of Jesus. Had Martha also sat at the feet of Jesus, I am sure the meal still would have been prepared, as both could have periodically gone to the kitchen for a time, and then returned and still had time to learn and enjoy the presence of Jesus. The church needs to learn to get its work done, but put worship ahead of the "nitty-gritty" duties of the church.

Samuel was busy in the temple service, and yet in I Samuel 3:7 it says:

"Samuel did not yet know the Lord..."

It is possible to be busy in church work, and not truly know, or enjoy the Lord Jesus.

The Greek word commonly used for "worship"

 is "proskuneo,"

which means "to kiss the hand toward."


This suggests an outward action which shows an inward realization of the greatness of another. The idea of "worth-ship" is recognized in real worship. In true worship is the recognition of Who the Lord truly is.

On the isle of Patmos, John was shown the future rapture day. In his vision, he saw the saints singing:

Revelation 4:8-11

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory

 and honor and power..."

Worship delights in the sheer glory of God. Worship revels in His Person, His Nature, and His being. Worship recognizes what He has done.

Our actions and behavior should make others rejoice and worship in the Lord.


When unbelievers see:

our good works,

our attitudes in crisis,

our love in the midst of hatred,

our patience in the midst of trial,

and our honesty in the midst of dishonesty...

they will glorify God Who has given us the grace to so behave.


I Peter 2:12

"Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles; that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation."


In this way, our behavior is an act of worship. We can glorify God, not only with our mouths, but with our lives, our attitudes, and with our actions. We should therefore be glorifying God most every moment.

I Corinthians 10:31

"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."

Romans 12:1

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."

The Greek word for "your reasonable service" is the Greek word "latreia".

This word could also be translated -

"your spiritual worship."

The original word is capable of both renderings.

The RSV translates it this alternate way.

The idea is that giving our lives to be a living sacrifice, and living a holy life for the Lord Jesus, is a form of worship.

In the real and true worship...

 there is no set pattern.

 Yet, it never becomes disorderly or confused.


Since the Spirit is in control,

the Spirit directs us to worship in manifold ways.

Nothing is more disastrous than to try to create an atmosphere of worship.

While we may try to create exuberance and rejoicing, the Spirit may be seeking to get us to weep and cry our love for Jesus.

When we seek the weeping worship, the Spirit may want to direct us toward praise and shouting.


When Charles Wesley was saved, he was flooded with joy...

 He described his happiness to Peter Bohler... and added...

"I suppose I should keep silent about it."


Peter Bohler answered: "No, never!

If you had a 1000 tongues,

go and use them all for Jesus!"

Wesley went home and wrote the song -

 "Oh For a Thousand Tongues to Sing

 My Great Redeemer's Praise..."

A great evangelist, teacher of the more recent past, A.G. Ward said: "Our Lord is desirous that people should be rejoicing Christians... if Christians were more joyful, they would set sinners' mouths a-watering for the dainties of true religion..."

Sometimes our hearts are heavy, our troubles are many... and we feel we must wait until things get better, or perfect... and then we will praise our Lord... Habakkuk questioned God of all the troubles that Israel was facing... and God replied to him:

"The just shall live by faith..."

We must learn as Habakkuk to live by faith, to rejoice even when our sight tells us there is nothing to rejoice in... when troubles abound...

Habakkuk wrote at the end of his book:

Habakkuk 3:17-18

"Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall there be fruit in the vines... yet will I rejoice in the Lord."

God created us for fellowship... the stones will cry out with praises if we do not... We must keep the stones silent... and praise our Lord and King... Certainly, He is worthy of our praises... God will inhabit our praises, and will come and dwell in the midst of those who are praising Him... Will you praise Him???

Let's sweep aside every hindrance... and give God the praise He deserves... Let us keep the stones silent... and let us be the ones to praise Him... Some await someone to lead their worship... It is not wrong to have worship leaders, but our praise must now be confined to these times only... True worship in the latter rain revival will be directed by the Spirit.


The children of Israel shouted around Jericho,

they had been quiet long enough,

they had marched 13 times around Jericho,

and now it was time to shout...


Now is the time to shout to God,

now is the time to loudly speak forth

His praises...

we have come across the Jordan,

we are dedicated now to His work,

and we are seeing walls crumble...


Let's praise His name...


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I knew  the Lord was in a hurry

for me to post those first lessons

on the promised land...

those were the very important ones..

to tell how to get into the promised land experience,

and to tell how to have the important victories...


with current circumstances it has been

hard to finish.

there are a few more lessons,

with other details to know on how to

continue in victory....


right now, I am still recovering from

a very bad attack...

probably the worst I have had...



paramedics took me to the hospital

well, turned out to not be a stroke,

or heart problem,

but did prove to be extremely low sugar..

was at 21 even after that juice...


could not talk well, or whatever...


am doing better now...

will continue on lessons here,

as I get my strength back...


which will not be long...

am stubborn, and don't let the devils

have advantage...



God has already been turning some

attacks from the devil to be turned

around to become 'good'...

and alot has been worked into good this

week end...


God is merciful, loving, and has plans...

we need to find our place in His plans..

He will get all done...


So... hang in there,

there are more teachings coming here..


thank you for your prayers...

don't stop now...

need more...



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No more manna...


The children of Israel could have complained

that there would be no more manna in the promised


Wouldn't you think God would not stop that blessing

just because they were in the promised land?

They could have campaigned easier,

had they not had to gather and grow their own food.

But God saw fit to stop the manna.


Some today, entering the promised land

would like there to be 'manna' kind of blessings.

Handouts from God, to satisfy our desire

for an easy life...


God expects work out of us in the promised land.

We are here to battle the enemy,

but to also claim the land and its benefits.

God has taken us out of the wilderness deserts,

where manna fell, to plush green, well watered

land, where we can plant, raise, harvest...


What did they get in exchange for the manna???


Deuteronomy 8:8

"... a land of wheat and barley and vines,

 and vines, and fig trees,

 and pomegranates; a land of olive oil,

 and honey, a land wherein thou

shalt eat bread without scarceness;

 thou shalt not lack anything in it."


God created many plants for us to eat.

 Plants were mainly created to be for food.

Genesis 1:29

"I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit, you hall have them for food."

In the Book of Revelation, we see a description

of a ‘tree of life’,

in which there are 12 kinds of fruit.


 These fruit, and the leaves of such,

 are given to bring ‘eternal’ life to the eaters.

 God had this tree created originally,

to be eaten along with all the

other fruit and vegetables.


Vegetable foods, meaning all ‘non-flesh’ foods,

 were the first foods given for mankind to eat.

 We do not find the permission to eat flesh

 until Genesis 9,

after Noah’s flood.


 So, previous to the flood,

mankind may (not certain) have been vegetarian.


Many would take wheat, remove the husks, and eat the grains raw. Or the wheat could be taken unground, and be parched or roasted. This was sometimes eaten with bread and vinegar (sour wine). Grain was ground into flour, put through a sieve and made into bread (leavened or unleavened). "Meal" was something made by rubbing wheat or barley grains with stone [often with a hand mill].

Leguminous plants...

Vegetable foods such as lentils and beans have long been common foods. They were eaten raw, cooked, ground, etc.

Jacob gave Esau lentils to eat. These were probably flavored with onions and herbs.

Sometimes these leguminous plants were crushed, ground, or even raw, and then roasted and eaten with oil and salt, and parched like corn. This was an early variation of what we now eat in doritos, tortilla chips.

Israel looked back at Egypt remembering the cucumbers, melons, leeks, onions, garlic, of Egypt (Numbers 11:5).


There were four varieties of beans enjoyed by them, also eaten were spices of chickory and endive, the chick pea, the bitter herbs, and mustard.


The cucumbers were less fibrous and more digestible than our current cucumbers used. They were used by travelers as good satisfiers of thirst. The poor of Egypt ate much bread, cucumbers, and melons. The cucumbers eaten raw, with or without salt. They could also be stuffed and cooked to make a meal. Sometimes they were pickled and eaten as relish for meat.

Fruit of trees...

The olive trees required 10 to 15 years,

after planting, to reach productive stage.

 The fig trees were planted near them, and were depended on for fruit until the olive tree matured.

The berries of the olive tree was used mainly for oil.

Fig trees were the principal shade and fruit tree of Palestine. These trees grew even spontaneously in the land. The first ripe fig growing on old wood, is considered a great delicacy (Isiah 28:4, Jeremiah 24:2). These figs were often eaten while young and green. The late figs were dried in the sun and used for out of season eating. Figs were pressed into molds and called a ‘cake of figs’ (I Samuel 25:18, I Chronicles 12:40). Fig cakes were used a poultrice (A.V. = ‘plaster’) for Hezekiah’s boil. The fig buds and appears before the leaves, but no fruit, was considered barren. (Mark 11:12, Isaiah 28:4, Matthew 21:19, Luke 13:7).

Grapes are called ‘the fruit of the vine’ (Matthew 26:29). Every man to have a vine and a fig tree (I Kings 4:25). Grape leaves were used a vegetable. The branches were cut off to make charcoal. Raisins are dried grapes. Grapes were used to make wine. Often, in the Bible times, the people mixed grape juice and honey to make a grape syrup.

It was common for people to use the fruit of the mulberry fig tree (sycamore), and of the date palm. The fruit of these was often dried, pressed into cakes. Pomegranates, pods of the carob tree was often used also.


Nuts, especially pistachio nuts, almonds, and walnuts were eaten and used in cooking.


The cummin (Kammon, anise, dill) mint, mustard, and salt were the common seasonings. Salt was considered good and vital. To eat salt was tantamount to eating his bread (Ezra 4:14). The ‘covenant of salt’ was inviolable (Numbers 18:19, II Chronicles 13:5).


‘Bread’ usually stands for food in general in the Bible. This is likely because meat, cheese, raisins, olives, etc. were inserted in the bread, to be eaten, along with the bread. Thus, bread could be the whole meal. The art of making bread is very ancient, the Egyptians, the Hebrews of the Exodus, used bread as a staple. Barley bread was common for the poorer classes. Wheat of the Syrian plains is known for its nutrition and keeping ability.



Perhaps, less meat was eaten then than now. But this is not certain. Some think it was limited to special occasions, family festivals, entertaining guests, and sacrificial meals. Yet, though some think this limits its ingestion, the magnitude of such kind of occasions, would make meats an oft eaten food.


The goat (especially the kid) was prized for food (Leviticus 4:23-28). Goats were also prized for their milk (Proverbs 27:27). Goats were valued possessions (Genesis 30:33, 32:14, I Samuel 25:2). Some think this value of goats for food, was because the lamb was more valuable for other reasons, so when a meal of flesh was desired, the goat was a readier victim (Luke 15:29).


The sheep of the Bible times was mostly the fat tailed species. The tail and the fatty parts were to be given to God as a sacrifice. (Exodus 29:22, Leviticus 3:9) To kill a lamb to honor a guest is one of the highest hospitality. Usually, only lambs were used for meat. (I Samuel 25:18, I Kings 1:19)


Little is said in the Old Testament about ‘fish’ in the diet (Numbers 11:5, Jeremiah 16:16, Ezekiel 47:10, and Ecclesiastes 9:12). Yet, there are 36 varieties of fish found available in the Jordan valley. There must have been a fish market near the ‘fish gate’ (Nehemiah 3:3). The ‘small fishes’ of Jesus’ miracle of multiplication of foods, would not have been done by the Lord, if He considered ‘fish’ to be non-proper for food, he could have just multiplied the bread.

Poultry, fowl...

Pigeons, doves, fatted fowl (probably geese) were often a part of the diet. The abundance of fruit trees in the land, meant an abundance of birds. Birds could be caught even by the poorest of the people, providing meat for even those who could not afford sheep, goats, or cattle for food. The game birds of partridge, quail, and sparrow were the most easily captured for food (Matthew 10:29, Luke 12: 6). Eggs of the domestic fowls were popular (Deuteronomy 22:6, Isaiah 10:14, Luke 11:12).

Poultry and fish were very common as foods, and yet, red meats were more meats of the wealthy.


The Bible speaks of the ‘calves of the herd,’ the ‘fatted calf’ (Luke 15:23), ‘fatlings’, and the ‘stalled ox’. An ox was stalled, and fed greatly, to provide a fatty, red meat hurriedly. This shows that ‘red meat’ was a prized and valued food. The flesh of male and female cattle was eaten.

The importance of meats, and the abundance of red meat in such flesh eating, is shown in menu’s listed in the Bible. The menu of ‘Solomon’s’ table, as shown in the Bible, show us the overwhelming reliance on meats for food. He had 30 measures of fine flour, 3 score measures of meal, 10 fat oxen, 20 oxen from pasture, 100 sheep, harts, gazelles, roe-bucks, and fatted fowl. Nehemiah’s daily portion was one ox, and 6 choice sheep. David’s menu was a bit more conservative than was Solomon’s, but still there was heavy reliance on meats. (II Samuel 17:28, I Kings 4:22, Nehemiah 5:18)

Game meats...

The Bible shows that hunting, and the meats gotten in such activity were used as a main source of the diets. The gazelle, the hart, the venison were common parts of the diet. Esau’s savory meat was venison. (Genesis 25:28, 27:4)

Edible insects...

Locusts were part of the food of John the Baptist (Matthew 3:4). These were considered to be delicacies by the Assyrians, and a favorite food of the Arabs. The head, legs, and wings were removed and put in meat, fried in oil and butter. Sometimes the locusts were dried or roasted, mixed with honey, and made into cakes. At other times, the locusts were dried and salted, and eaten as we do potato chips.


Milk is a by-product of the raising of flesh food. It is a staple article of food (Deuteronomy 32:14, Proverbs 27:27). Milk was usually kept in skins (Judges 4:19). Often, the milk was made into cheese (Job 10:10).


Bees’ honey was prized and relished by the culture of that day. (Psalms 19:10, Proverbs 16:24). It seems to have been a favorite food of the children (Isaiah 7:15), probably like candy bars, and such are today for children.


So, there was a buffet of great fooods to eat

in the promised land.

God supplies us with many great things,

to replace the few things from the wilderness



Some get into complaining...

it is work to grow, harvest and cook...

Oh would  it not be easier to just pick

up manna daily...

well, it would be easier...


but God wants us to have

far more than 'manna'...

we can have a bountiful harvest...

we can feast, ..


God has great plans for us...

He has a 'harvest' planned for us...


it may take some work...

but we are going to not only have

victories over the enemy (the devils)

but we are going to have bountiful

blessings, ...

may take some work,

but it will be worth the effort...


 God finds 'suppertime' for us

to be a great time...

Jesus taught much around the dinner table,

Jesus has a great supper planned fo rus....


God has promised land blessings set for us...

alot of them have to do with physical food,

and with spiritual food...

and we sometimes share the two kinds of 'food'

at the same time...


we have a great suppertime coming up..








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manna was easy,

and blessed...


but now,

God wants fruit...

God wants to see our lives matter,

and we need to get busy...




and finally harvesting...


this is true for not only literal gardens,

but for our lives and ministries too...


we have work to get done...

literally and spiritually...


you will find that as you do literal work,

the Lord puts in alot of 'spiritual work'

with it...

it is 'not one or the other'

it is going to be both...


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Joshua 13 - 19

The disiciples came to Jesus one time, and said ‘we have left all to follow you, what do we get?’ What do we get as our inheritance if we serve the Lord, and as we fight the devil?

The children of Israel came into the promised land, and after some battles taking the land, the land was divided, and they now were not traveling on a lonely, dry, worthless desert, but inheritors of a promised land of beauty, wealth, and bountiful harvests. We too, are inheritors, and there are many blessings, physical and spiritual that we inherit.

In the Book of Joshua we see God’s answer to inheritance. First, we are shown to ‘win the battles’. Joshua and the people of Israel spent years winning battles. The devils would love us to stop that part of the campaign, and just try to live with the sin and sinners. Yet, God wants us to win over the devils, claim the land of blessing, and plant for our harvests to come. The first part is taking the land promised to us.

Joshua 13:1

"Now Joshua was old and stricken in years, and the Lord said unto him, Thou are stricken in years and there remaineth yet very much to be possessed."

Joshua lived to 110 years old. He remained alive after entering Israel for about 30 years. God was anxious for total conquest, and Israel had done much in those years of Joshua, but had much left to do. The land described by God as Israel’s in Joshua 13:2-6 includes the Suez (now claimed by Egypt) and Lebanon. So the promised land, to God,

is far bigger than Israel even claims today. God has much to give us, as He has had more to give Israel than they have ever claimed.

Balaam was killed during this time.

Joshua 13:22

"Balaam, also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, did the children of Israel slay with the sword among them that are slain by them..."

This death is also stated in Numbers 31:8, and that the enemies of God, though they were sometimes pretenders of serving God, were slain. There is coming a day in our time too, when false prophets will be judged. God will handle this, we do not slay anyone, we do not pray evil on anyone, we intercede for them. We do not condone their evil practices, their false doctrines, their abusive ways, but we intercede, and let God take care of the rest of the matters.

Balaam is here called a ‘soothslayer’. God had forsaken him, he was not hearing from God anymore., the Spirit of God was not moving in him anymore. Balaam had then turned to demons for help. We find the same kind of thing happening in religious circles of today. The greed and pride of many make them seek help from the demon of carnal mammon, from the demon of temporal things, to please the greedy selves and others.

Balaam was a subverter and devourer of people. There were many victims of this man. Balaam was the son of Beor, who was the king of Edom. Balak, king of Moab, called on this prophet, Balaam, to put a curse on Israel. (Numbers 22:5-6) He seems somewhat to have known God (Numbers 22:8), but it took a dumb donkey to correct this one who thought himself wise and spiritual (Numbers 22:34-35). Balaam finally delivered a message from God to Balak (Numbers 23:5-10, 16-24, 24:14-24). Balaam then turned to a life of being a soothsayer, i.e. telling people things they wanted to hear from God so they would reimburse Balaam generously. We find many ‘so called prophets’ of today doing that same soothsaying.

The hinderers like Balaam were being eliminated, and as we come into the promised land, we need to eliminate out of our lives the ‘soothsaying’ prophets, the abusive and harmful teachers claiming to be from God. We need to step away from that kind of ‘blessing promisers’ and get to the real inheritance of the Lord.

There ‘still remaineth yet very much land to be possessed."

There are souls to be saved, lives to be changed, an army to keep trained, victories to be won, a devil to be chased away ... for us today. We have not yet won all the battles.

If Israel had kept battling for all the promised land God had promised, they would have had far fewer continuing battles, as they do today, with the lack of all the land they had been promised.

Some today ... never get beyond salvation. Some don’t seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which we are commanded to seek. Some have the baptism of the Spirit, but then don’t seek the gifts of the Spirit. Some have one gift, but then don’t seek more. Some have small revivals, but then don’t seek great revivals. Etc.

The inheritance we are promised is huge, and we are not touching the surface of what God has laid up for us.

Joshua 13:13

"The children of Israel, expelled not the Gesharites, nor the Maachathites..."

The children of Israel, relaxed and moved in, before the battles and conquests were over. They would have had more land and possessions to inherit, had they done as God had instructed. We have inheritance and blessings yet to conquer, and we had better get off our backsides and keep conquering. Are you staitfied with what you have from God already, or do you want more? God wants you to want more, and more, and more. You displease God when you stop the conquests and battles.

Joshua 15:63

"As for the Jebusites, the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the children of Judah could not drive them out, but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Judah, at Jerusalem, unto this day."

Caleb conquered part of Judah, but that area was not fully conquered until the days of David, 500 years later. (II Samuel 5:3-7, Judges 1:8) We find that many today are not conquering anymore, and at the rate they seek more victories, it will be 500 years before victory comes for them too. Some victories are harder to win, and as Jesus told the disciples, some victories come only by ‘fasting and prayer’.

Some today would rather have financial gain, rather than spiritual victories. Choosing carnal gain, instead of heavenly blessings, is a most foolish decision.

Joshua 17:13

"Yet it came to pass, when the children of Israel were waxen strong, that they put the Canaanites to tribute, but did not utterly drive them out..."

Today, some water down the gospel, and seek financial gain, rather than spiritual victories. Some ministers minister to the rich, and neglect the helping of the poor. Some seek to ‘receive’ rather than to ‘give’.


Joshua had been directed by God on how to divide the inheritance.

Joshua 14:2-5

"By lot was their inheritance, as the Lord commanded, by the hand of Moses, for the 9 ½ tribes...

For Moses had given the inheritance of the 2 ½ tribes on the other side of Jordan, but unto the Levites, he gave the inheritance among them.

For the children of Joseph were 2 tribes, Manasseh and Ephraim. Therefore they gave no part unto the Levites in the land, save cities to dwell in, with the suburbs for their cattle and their substance.

As the Lord commanded Moses, so the children of Israel did, and they divided the land.’

Joshua did not divide the land by his own will, nor did the children of Israel pick their own. It was divided wise and well, just and good. Yet it was divided by lot, and things worked as God wanted them to work. Joshua had the privilege of handling the divisions that God had already determined.

Eleazar was the High Priest who acted with Joshua to determine the divisions. The High Priest had the urim and thummin, which typlified the ‘Alpha and Omega’, i.e. Jesus, Who is the One who determines our blessings and inheritance yet today.

The cities of Simeon were scattered in Judah, and this made those to tribes to have a confederacy with each other. (Joshua 19:1-9) Each trible had some peculiarities of its own land, the Levites for instance had cities in different tribes lands. This made them all separate, yet bound together too. We are all separate, but God wants us to work together as one body. God wants His army and people today to have fellowship with one another.


Joshua 14:6-14

"Then the children of Judah came unto Joshua at Gilgal, and Caleb, the son of Japhanniah, the Kenezite, said unto him, Thou knjowest the thing that the Lord said unto Moses, the man of God, concerning me and thee in Kadesh-barnea.

Forty years old was I.. Espy the land... and I brought him word again, as it was in my heart...

My brethren that went not up iwth me made my heart melt, but I wholly followed the Lord my God...

And Moses sware on that day, saying Surely the land whereon thy feet have trodden shall be thine inheritance...

I am this day 85 years old...

I am as strong this day as I was in the day that Moses sent me...

Now therefore, give me this mountain, for thou has heard how Anakims were there...

Joshua blessed him and gave Caleb... Hebron for an inheritance...

...because he wholly followed the Lord God of Israel.’

Caleb could not have died before that, for God had promised him the land he had spied out. That was the mountainous area of Hebron. Giants were living there now, and Caleb said, I want my inheritance. So Joshua announced it was his, and Caleb, at 85 years old, took the land from the giants. He believed God.

Today, God promises many things to us. Some are willing to never claim what God has promised. God wants you blessed, and helped. He has the blessings and help for you. Claim it, as did Caleb. It may look like ‘giant’ territory, but God’s promises are stronger than the muscles of giants.


Joshua 15:13-14

"unto Caleb, the city of Arba, the father of Anak, which is the city of Hebron.

Caleb drove from thence, three sons of Anak, Sheshai, Ahiman, and Talmai..."

Bashan was called the ‘land of sacred romance’, and probably had that name due to the ‘sons of God (angels) cohabiting with the ‘daughters of men’. Some in ancient days, thought that was a good union. Yet, the giant and evil beings made by those unions, the devil tried to keep Israel from ever claiming the promised land. Yet, with ones like Caleb, the victory was won, for he claimed what God had promised.

We need more saints today, ready to step up and claim what God wants for us to have. Determination is something that God wants in His army today. There are too many wimps, sluggards, and fox hole hiders. God wants us taking mountains, claiming inheritances.

Many ancient structures survive somewhat in that land today. There are dark marble (basalt) walls, some 5 to 8 foot thick. There are roof slabs 6 foot thick. Ceilings in some of the homes of those giants were 20 to 30 foot tall. Doors were often 10 foot high. Og, the king of Bashan, who was a giant, had a bedstead that was 18 ½ feet long and 8 1/3 feet wide. Goliath, later had a coat of armor that weighed 196 pounds, and he was almost 13 feet tall.

Our ‘giant’ problems today seem so hard, and we seem so unable to do what needs done to conquer them. But we need Caleb’s today that will step up and say ‘this mountain is mine’. Giants will flee or be destroyed. For God is the One Who gives Caleb’s the victory.

We need to ‘wholly follow God." The truth and bravery of Caleb allowed God to give him the victory. Caleb was a giant spiritually, and God rewards them that diligently seek Him.’

We are told to ‘delight thyself in the Lord, and He shall give thee the desires of thine heart.’ Psalms

What kind of conqueror are you? Paul said ‘we are more than conquerors though Christ Who loves us..." Are you ‘more’ than a conqueror? What are you ready to inherit? Are you rich spiritually?

Are you endowed with many spiritual gifts? Are you ready to lead souls to Jesus? Are you ready to defeat the devils’ plans? Are you ready to ‘bind and loose’? Have you been ‘asking, seeking, knocking’?

Be like Caleb, and step and claim your mountain of giants.


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Surely, the inheritance

of what God has for us,

is wonderful...


it is also often 'not believed'...


none of us feel worthy of such blessings...

we aren't...

but it is grace...

and mercy...


we receive blessings we never have,

never will deserve...


some don't ask, don't accept

the merciful blessings of God

due to that 'not worthy' feeling...


don't turn down the mecry of God,

you insult God's mercy if you

neglect so great a blessing...


we have no right to deserve the blessings,

but we have no right to refuse them  either....


accept what He is giving you...


He told us to 'ask largely'...

and when He gives 'largely'...

what He wants is not rejection of HIs great


but praise Him...


do you thank Him for His blessings?


humility is knowing you do not deserve them,

it is not humility to reject God's bountiful blessings...




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Originally Posted by murjahel


So, there was a buffet of great fooods to eat

in the promised land.

God supplies us with many great things,

to replace the few things from the wilderness



Some get into complaining...

it is work to grow, harvest and cook...

Oh would  it not be easier to just pick

up manna daily...

well, it would be easier...


but God wants us to have

far more than 'manna'...

we can have a bountiful harvest...

we can feast, ..


God has great plans for us...

He has a 'harvest' planned for us...


it may take some work...

but we are going to not only have

victories over the enemy (the devils)

but we are going to have bountiful

blessings, ...

may take some work,

but it will be worth the effort...


 God finds 'suppertime' for us

to be a great time...

Jesus taught much around the dinner table,

Jesus has a great supper planned fo rus....


God has promised land blessings set for us...

alot of them have to do with physical food,

and with spiritual food...

and we sometimes share the two kinds of 'food'

at the same time...


we have a great suppertime coming up..







What wonderful news to hear.

Looks like I am entering

the right profession.


Speaking of bread...

I just finished up

Baking and Pastry class...


Oh, the possibilities...


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Congrats Ajax.  Thought of you tonite as my baby is watching the Disney movie about the rat and chef student that cook together

Ready Lord. Let it be today.

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Joshua 20-31

Numbers 35:6

"Among the cities (48) ye shall give unto the Levites, there shall be six (6) cities for refuge... to them shall ye add 42 cities..."

Part of God’s plan for the promised land was that there be six cities for mercy. In those cities, a person accused of a crime, whereupon the wronged parties cold seek judgment, swift and final, the guilty or falsely accused one could flee to one of these cities, and inside its walls be safe from retribution.

This was a special purpose for these cities. God has a plan for our promised land too. We have to have mercy often, even when it is totally undeserved. We often have to act as though we have not been wronged. We often have to behave without judgmentalism, without regard to offense done to us. These cities had special purpose in the promised land.

Numbers 35:11-15

Then shall ye appoint you cities to be for refuge for you, that the slayer may flee thither who kills any person unawares.

And they shall be cities for refuge from the avenger, that the manslayer die not until he stand before the congregation in judgment. And of these cities (the 48 given to the Levites), which ye shall give 6 cities, shall ye have for refuge.

Ye shall give three cities on this side of Jordan, and three cities in the land of Canaan which ye shall be for cities of refuge.

These six cities shall be for refuge, both for the children of Israel and for the stranger among them, that anyone that kills anyone unawares may flee thither."


This shows that in God’s law, a person was considered not guilty till having been given a trial. The person was considered to have committed the crime unknowingly, unwittingly, until, within the city of refuge, he is proven in a court of the congregation (his peers), to have done the crime knowingly or of choice. The fact that the person would flee to that city was his or her declaration of ‘innocent’ as their plea. The congregation within those cities would determine if that were true or not. So, locked within those walls the person was safe from the ‘avenger’ (idea then of what we might call the ‘sheriff’) If the person left the city, it would be considered as we today would think of a jailbreak.

Joshu 20:1-3

"The Lord also spake unto Joshua, saying, Speak to the children of Israel, saying, Appoint out for you cities of refuge, whereof I spake unto you by the hand fo Moses, that the slay that killeth any person unawares or unwittingly may flee thither, and they shall be your refuge from the avenger of blood."



Six Cities of Refuge


Kadesh in Galilee in Napthali

Shechem in Mt Ephriam

Hebron in Judah

Bezer in wilderness in Reuben across the Jordan eastward

Ramoth in Gilead in Gad east of Jordan

Golan in Bashan in Manasseh on the east of Jordan



Besides the cities of refuge, there were the ‘horns of the altar’ at the Tabernacle where one could flee, and there grasping the horns, they could be safe from retribution for their crime until the time of a trial.

When one fled to a city of refuge, they were to enter and find safety in its walls, and there declare his cause and reason for fleeing there unto the elders of that city. Then he was given a place to live within its walls until the avenger arrived, presented his case for guilt, and a jury of one’s peers within the city determined the guilt or innocence.

If found not guilty of willful murder, the person was to remain inside the walls of the city until the death of the high priest of the time. This was not a prison actually, but a city whose walls only willingly confined the person, but the protection therein showed God’s governmental protection put upon the guilty till trial, and on the innocent until time had calmed for anger of those who thought or still think the one pronounce innocent to be guilty. This kind of protection is often not given to many today.

The High Priest’s death, that meant even the still threatened by this world could go free, typlifies the death of our High Priest, i.e. Jesus, Whose death atones for us, even if guilty, and yet looked innocent to peers, but still guilty, that sin is not forgiven, as when the High Preist died in those days.

After that, even the suggestion of guilt for the person was to be punished for this person was to be safe and totally absolved of all suggestion of gult. This shows that when we, repent to Jesus, whether our peers think of guilty or not, we are to be safe in His mercy.

In our time, when we sin, fail, cause someone to backslide, err greatly in the faith, we have a refuge and protection to claim. Often, we find saints troubled even long after a sin or failure. The Lord, in this promised land we are within, does not want us troubled by those past, repented of, sins.

Jesus is our Refuge.

David prayed in Psalm 61:14

"Deliver me from bloodguiltiness."

He had set up the events that led to Uriah’s death. He had mperhaps even set up the deaths of a few others in that planned death of Uriah. Those deaths could have weighed heavily upon David, from then to now. Yet, the costly sins of our past can be forgiven, atoned for, removed from the list of sins in our life. God foresaw the gult that could have come upon mankind, troubling mankind for decades even after a sin. God provided that we should have refuge from that guilt and promise of retribution.



The CITIES OF REFUGE, were a type of Jesus.

Kadesh means ‘holy’ and Jesus is our ‘holiness and righteousness’ as Christians.

Shechem means ‘shoulder’, and the government is upon His shoulders, He has the right to declare innocent or guilty.

Hebron means ‘fellowship’, and believers, guilty before, are now called into the fellowship of Jesus.

Bezer means ‘fortification’, and Jesus is our fortification from the attack of those who still hate us for former sins.

Ramoth means ‘high, exalted’, and God hath exalted Jesus to the position of Judge, to determine who still deserves judgment, and who has found mercy in His forgiveness.

Golam means ‘joy or exaltation’, and in Jesus we find joy and a raising up from the low place of guilt and shame.

Psalms 46:1

"God is our Refuge and strength,

a very present help in trouble..."




Joshua 21:1-3

"Then came near the fathers of the Levites unto Eleazar the priest and unto Joshua... saying the Lord commanded by Moses to give us cities to dwell in... the children of Israel gave unto the Levites out of their inheritance, at the commandment of the Lord, those cities and their suburbs."

Joshua 13:33

"But unto the tribe of Levi,

 Moses gave not any inheritance,

 the Lord God of Israel was their inheritance."

Those six cities of refuge, and 42 other cities, were given to the priests to live. The 48 cities were theirs. Ohter tribes had a state-like area of cities and country to call their own, The priests were to have a special ministry of administering repentance to the other tribes, and to be there to lead them to God. They were not given inheritance and possession of land like the other tribes.

They were not to be consumed with thinking of planting, harvesting, builtding, getting wealth and power. They were to be ministers, serving, available for ministry. They were to be scattered not just in one area of the country.

We today are all to be ‘priests’ to a sinful world.

I Peter 2:9

‘But ye are a chosen generation,

 a royal priesthood..."

We are not to seek earthly possessions. Poor as ‘church mice’ sometimes, we minister for the Lord. We do not seek wealth, and if we do, we have neglected our real ministry. The Lord has provided Himself to be our inheritance, and that is greater than all the inheritance of others put together.

The Levites were dispersed amongst the other tribles, and there, spread out, without inheritance, without the seeking of personal wealth, they ministered and taught the people. If any Christian today,

gets to thinking of ‘gain’ and ‘power’ for themselves, they are unfit for the work of God. The true work of our day, is to be a priesthood of believers, intercessors for all others, minsters of the Sacrifice of Jesus for the world. We are not here for collection of wealth, we are laying up our wealth in heaven, and our inheritance now, is Jesus. How wonderful an inheritance to have. We have visions, dreams, revelations, we have gifts of the Spirit, fruit of the Spirit, and we see the power of God flow from our being to the world in which we minister. I feel sorry for those who have not yet realized the blessing of this.

Jesus left His disciples in the ‘upper room,’ from which they were to disperse and go into all the world, not to gain and get, but to ‘preach the gospel’ to the world.

A priest in the Old Testament period spent one week every 24 weeks in the Tabernacle. That shows us that we may spend time with God as priests, but 23 weeks out of 24 are spent out in the land of others, ministering, teaching, them about our God and our Savior. God send us into this world to minister. Some of us who once had ‘inheritance, homes, possessions, security, wealth, etc. have found ourselves serving Jesus, giving up all those, and asked to do it willingly, for we are now ‘servants’ not possessors’ in the promised land.

The promised land we have entered is a land of gain, but it is a spiritual gain for we the priesthood of believers. We intercede for others, we provide refuge from shame and guilt of tohers. We do not live for the carnal wealth, we sacrifice for the sake of Jesus.

I Corinthians 9:14

"...those who preach the gospel should live of the gospel."

A tithe was collected for those of the tribes, and one of its main purposes was to support the priesthood, the Levites. We are all the priesthood today, and God collects in various ways from others to provide for our needs. We trust Him in this, and at the same time work at whatever job we find ourselves put into, for that is one of the ways the Lord has chosen to supply our needs. The job I have is God’s way to supply what I will need to do the work He gives me. If I need more to do more, He will supply. I am not to save for a yacht, I am to use the money God supplies me for minisstry.

There was blessing for Israel after they provided for the Levites.

Joshua 21:43=45

"And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which He sware to give nto the fathers, and the possessed it, and dwelt therein.

And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that He sware unto their fathers, and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them, the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand.

There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass..."

A rest is given, a blessing is bestowed to those the Lord uses, the bosses and owners of companies that provide work, income, and help to those who are the priests of this age.

Some had failed to get this ‘rest’. Those who died in the wilderness, due to not wanting to go into the land, not wanting the plan of God for the promised land, failed to get this special rest.

Hebrews 3:19

"...could not enter in because of unbelief’

Unbelief, lack of faith in God, hinders many from getting the inheritance of the priesthood, i.e. Jesus in all His power and glory. The entering into the rest, is an entering into a peace that passes all understanding, entering into a work where we do the works of Jesus, and greater works now too.

Hebrews 4:1

"Let us therefore fear, lest a promise

being left us of entering into His rest,

any of you should seem to come short of it..."

Hebrews 4:3

"For we who have believed do enter into rest,

 as He said,

 As I have sworn in My wrath,

if they shall not enter into My rest,

 although the works were finished

from the foundation of the world...’

We cease from working to be righteous. We cease from seeking our gain, our good, our measure of good, to do His work, His measure, His plan.

Hebrews 4:9-10

"There remains therefore a rest to the people of God.

 For he that entered into His rest,

 he also hath ceased from his work,

 as God did from His."

As God rested from His labors on the seventh day, so when we come into the promised land as priests, cease from our self seeking works, and start to do the works of God, seeking His kingdom, not our wealth.

We labor to enter, not labor to gain. We want in the promised land of victory over the devil, and inheritance of the Lord, but we do not labor to gain for selves.

Hebrews 4:11

"Let us labor therefore to enter into His rest..."

Yes, one has to labor to enter into rest. Some think prew sitting in the right church will get us there, some think waiting for God to do it will get us there. But we ‘labor... to get... rest’. The rest the Lord offers comes after giving up inheritance, giving up gain and fame, and laboring for the Lord. There is rest for us.

God has delivered us from Egypt (sin). God then provided manna daily. God has brought us on dry land to the promised land. God has delivered us from our enemies. God has given us the fruit of the land. God has collected tithes from the world in the forms of gifts and jobs to provide for our ministry. God has given cities of refuge for us to dwell in for mercy of sins. Our part now is to labor to stay in the rest, blessing, vicotories given.

We have a God Who is gracious, merciful and has rest for us.

Hebrews 4:16

"Let us therefore come boldly

 unto the throne of grace,

that we may obtain mercy

and find grace to help in time of need."


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Yes... even we need mercy...

things can get very hard,


times can be a struggle,



the Lord has us in the promised land...


some of you oft feel like you are

still in the wilderness...


but the promised land can be

a bit more a battle than the wilderness...


no more manna here...

no more water pouring from the Rock...


bearing fruit....

can be work...

but nothing in the wilderness

compares with walls falling...


got to march around those walls

13 times...

yuk... that is work...


is it worth it?


but if we stop after time number 12,

we miss the excitement of after 13...



more to come on the promised land living...


left my notes at home (first mistake today)

or I would be doing a lesson on

'strife amidst'


but this will give some of you a chance

to catch up...




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We have entered the promised land...

we have crossed Jordan, making

commitment to conquer, not wander...


We have come to some Jericho's...

hopefully not any Ai's...

we are to keep taking the  promised land,

one Jericho at a time...


it is hard,

we feel tired,

we find the marching around Jericho to be

tiring... but we expect to see God move,

God give victory...


the 'new word' thread of long back

we saw God move in a certain way



in this thread,

we will see events happen,

victories come,

Ai may reappear to our chagrin from time to time,


we are in the new covenant,

so repentance is easy now...


we can then go back to taking cities like



been nice traveling with many of you here...

some even unnamed ones, who have never

joined still come and read with us...


hopefully they are conquering their Jerichos


and hopefully

they will soon have the courage

to sign on, and discuss...


some are afraid to be named, and to get

attacks from the 'attackers who also read

here... LOL


this board is used by the Lord...

we watch Him work...


thanks for coming, for whatever reason...

good to see the readership as high as it is...


new lesson tomorrow...



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having a little battle with my

sugar levels today...

am working on it, doing some better...


the lesson for today is started,

but have to straighten out sugar levels a bit to finish


took 40 minutes to get two sentences done,

so better start afresh in a bit...


it is an important lesson,

so stay tuned... 


and thanks for your prayers...




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Joshua 22

The wars are mostly won. The tribes need to settle down, claim the cities, plant and tend their vineyards, raise their herds. Joshua begins to disband his army. The army was never intended to be permanent.

Joshua 22:5

"But take diligent heed to do the commandment the law which Moses, the servant of the Lord charged you, to love the Lord your God, and to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, to cleave unto Him, and to serve Him with all your heart, and with all your soul."

Joshua gives them counsel, to live a serious godly life. As a father, he blesses them, and recommends them and their families to live in the grace of God.

The two and a half tribes on the other side of Jordan, decide to built an altar. The altar was made after the pattern of the brazen altar of the tabernacle.

Joshua 22:28

"... behold, the pattern of the altar of the Lord..."

This was a mistake of the 2 112 tribes. They had built an altar that had the semblance of evil. It offended the other tribles. They had not consulted Eleazar, the High Priest, and the other tribes assumed that they had started their own, separate religion. Were they jealous of the other tribes having the tabernacle on their side of the Jordan, or were they wanting not to have to travel to the other side to do sacrifice? Those 2 ½ tribes were unwise to do this without counsel and discussion. The other tribes were too quick to judge and condemn.

The judgmentalism of the other tribes led them to be suspicious, and made them decide to quickly go to war. They decided the 2 ½ tribes wanted to worship other gods, and wanted to divide from the 9 ½ tribes totally. This quick to condemn attitude was no better than the lack of wisdom of the other tribes to make their decision without counsel.

We see the same kind of thing happen between denominations, between Christians, today too. The decision of the 9 ½ tribes to go to war immediately, without discussion, shows the ease that allies can become enemies. We see Christians today get angry at other Christians over differences that if ever discussed would find resolution and that allies can remain allies. This ease to enmity and anger is a large problem for the Christian faith, as it was for Israel then.

We have today, many denominations, many faiths. Yet, we are supposed to serve the same God, read the same Bible, and have the same hope of heaven. We should be able to get along better as long as one group does not have a damnable doctrine (a doctrine that if believed would damn one’s soul). Some groups claiming to be Christian have violated basic, vital doctrine. If they deny the deity of Jesus, or His atoning work on the cross, of course that is too vital a doctrine to be excused. Yet, if one group believes a minister should wear a robe while in the pulpit area, and another group lets their minister wear blue jeans, that is not a difference that should make either group condemn the other to hell fire.

We serve the same God, we can have differences. The condemnation of one group against the other is pathetic in the faith. Discussion and even agreement to disagree can work wonders. When we divide over small matters, it grows, and soon disagreement becomes anger, then hatred, and our ‘warfare’ is not to be against one another.

The strife in the 12 tribes, was then needed to short of all out war. Phineas, and one of each tribe was to meet. Phineas was chosen, not Eleazar, for Eleazar was the High Priest, and the priests were trained to be intercessors, forgivers of the wrongs of the people. Phineas was the one who slew the Israelite man and Midianite woman when he caught them committing adultery. This gained him a name for his zeal in taking that quick action to avoid some of the judgment of the Lord. (Numbers 25)

So, obviously, they wanted someone to act quickly, and were again afraid that God would judge quickly if they acted slowly.




1. The 9 ½ tribes feared that God might judge them as at Peor, if they did not handle the matter of the 2 ½ tribes themselves (Joshua 22:17 "is the iniquity of Peor too little for us?’) They thought it might lead to another judgment. The devil, then and now in our promised land, will often use our past failures to put fear into us, not a fear of doing wrong, but a fear of God. Our past failures were bad, due to our failure, and we should fear failing again. Yet, the 9 ½ had not failed, and they were not sure the other 2 ½ had failed, but they were going to be harsh, be ready for war, judge, condemn, before even calm counsel.

2. The 9 ½ tribes feared being blamed as Achan’s family. The tribes were judged at Ai, not just for Achan’s failure, but for their own of looking to man’s strength for victory, not to God as they had at Jericho. So they had twisted the message of the lesson at Ai. The judgment of ‘Achan’ (Joshua 22:20), was a sin of him and his family, all participating in the same sin, and their stoning was not shared with the rest of Israel, for that sin, as inferred here. No innocent ones died in that stoning. So this justification of their judgmentalism, is not a valid one. The devil will try to justify our condemnation of others. We are to ‘know them by their fruits’, and to judge a ‘righteous judgment’,

But even then, we are told to ‘pray for them that despitefully use you and persecute you...’ We do not need to hate apostates, we hate the doctrines espoused, we hate the devil who instigates them on, but we are not to hate them. We pray for, not against them. We attack their false doctrines, as doctrines, not them, themselves. We do not condone sin, we preach against sin. But we are ready to forgive the sinner, just as is the Lord. We do not hang signs of ‘unforgivable sinner’ around their necks. We are seeking salvation, not condemnation and damnation. Some in the anti-homosexual movement have sought to do such, have declared that God hates the homosexual, not just the sin. Their personal condemnation is pathetic and evil.




Joshua 22:16

"What trespass is this that ye have committed

 against the God of Israel to turn away

this day from the following of the Lord

 in that ye have builded you an altar,

 that ye might rebel this day against the Lord."

This turns out to be a false accusation. The 9 ½ tribes had ASSUMED. They had judged, but the Bible tell us to ‘judge not’. Many in Christianity today judge, accuse, and seek to constantly condemn other Christians.




They did not give a harsh, accusing retort to the charge, but rather gave a soft answer. They did not say ‘we are not accountable to you’, but rather gave a free and open declaration of what they had really intended to do.

Joshua 22:22

"The Lord God of gods,

 the Lord God of gods, He knows..."

They show respect and reverence for God. The Hebrew name they use for God is ‘El Elohim, Yehovah’. This literally means, ‘Almighty God, Almighty Gods (trinity), Eternal Covenant God’.

They went on to say:

Joshua 22:29

"God forbid that we should rebel against the Lord..."

They proclaim that their motive was never to rebel, but to put the altar only as respect and praise for what God had done for them. They said that they had:

Joshua 22:27

‘to do service of the Lord before Him..."

This shows their intent, and explains that their action was not a step of separation, nor of honor of other gods, but a memorial to remind their people of the great provision of God for their sins. They go on and explain that they had feared that their posterity might be treated as strangers in the tabernacle, and if so, they wanted their posterity to still be able to repent to God for any sins. That fear and the subsequent quickness to judgment of those ones, shows their fears had some foundation.

To prevent ‘alienation’ the 2 ½ tribes sought to put the altar as a ‘witness between’ the two sides (Joshua 22:26-28).



A war was averted. It was averted due to communication. Isolation with out discussion of both parties is dangerous, for demons can portray things as different than reality would show them to be. Both sides need to sit down and discuss. Discussion will alleviate misconceptions, will hinder demons from giving evil input, will help one to feel more like forgiving, understanding. These are not bad, but good. We do need to keep discussion going between us and those who are in relationship of our churches.

The 9 ½ tribes mellowed when they heard the words of the 2 ½ tribes. Often, since then, things have not happened so amiably.

They gave the altar a name, ‘Ed’ (Joshua 22:34). Care was taken to be sure the altar would be used only as a memorial, and that the trip to the tabernacle for sacrifice was open to all 12 tribes.

Paul talked of the disputes in Corinth.

I Corinthians 3:4

"For while one saith, I am of Paul, and another,

I am of Apollos, are ye not all carnal?"

Fighting over their favorite preacher was evil then. Of course, now... Well, it is still evil. Our Lord is our Lord.. We do not worship man, we honor some for their faithful, Scriptural, presentation of the gospel, but we do not lift any man to a status of "Lord’.

Disputes today are over doctrines, over denominations, over the definition of sin, over what to drink and not drink, over with whom to socialize, over what law to keep or not keep, over what day to worship upon, over what to wear and not wear, over what customs and forms to keep or not keep.

We find in various denominations some strengths and some weaknesses. Let’s look at ‘strengths’...

Baptists show a wonderful forgiving gospel.

Methodists show a simplicity of the gospel.

Nazarenes show the holiness of the gospel.

Church of Christ shows the importance of water baptism.

Assembly of God shows the ministry of the Holy Spirit in the church.

Church of God shows the emotion of the gospel.

Christian, Missionary Alliance shows the importance of evangelism.

Surely, we could make corresponding lists of ‘weaknesses’ of each, and we could debate the differences till the millennium is over. We need to seek to make sure what we call strengths is in us personally. Denominations do not go to heaven, people do. Jesus described in Revelation 2 and 3, some strengths and weaknesses in 7 churches. He saw weaknesses in each, and strengths in most... Even in the worst of them, He is seen standing, knocking, and waiting for someone, even one, to invite Him inside. So, to simply condemn, attack, and belittle is not the answer, but to be ready to commune, to share strengths is so much more important.

When we get done battling the devil,

why do Christians get into battling each other?

Romans 14:4

"Who art thou, that judgest another man’s servant?"

Romans 14:10

"But why dost thou judge thy brother?

Or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

For we shall all stand before

 the judgment seat of Christ..."

Romans 14:13

"Let us not therefore judge one another any more..."

We are to fellowship with other saints in spite of differences of opinion. We are not to despise each other. WE are not to condemn them. We are to recognize that we are answerable only to God.

Internal strife ruins revival. What if the 8 ½ tribes had attacked the 2 ½ tribes? If they had, all the victories over the enemy would have come to nought. Whose side would God have been on, in that case? Both thought they had done right. God would not have taken sides, He wants us on His side, and will not choose sides between us. Both sides made mistakes in Joshua, and both needed corrected. If they had taken the matter to killing and subduing, their sins would have been far greater.

The same for revivals today.

Some chase away young saints

by their condemnations and judgments.

It ends the revival spirit,

grieves the Holy Spirit, and brings the wrath of God,

if we condemn, judge, avoid communication.

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